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http://www.railsenvy.com/2007/8/24/rails-vs-php

I don’t mean to represent you, and I did go through the cakephp site and the manual and bakery before I wrote the post and I couldn’t find any mention of unit testing or database migration support. I think that if these are core parts of the framework you should make them more prominent on your website. For example, in the “Why Use It?” area of your homepage, I’d expect to see a list of core features/advantages listed there but, alas, there’s no mention of those features there. In the “Manual” page that has the table of contents there are no chapters about unit testing or database management so if Cake does have those features why is it not in the manual? If these are “coming in 1.2″ features then why weren’t they in your slideshow? And in the Bakery page I found 1 link “Testing Models with CakePHP 1.2 test suite” but no mention or links about database migration support. So I’ll give you that one but is that only in v1.2, which is still in alpha?

If you want to provide good links to Cake’s unit testing features and database migration features and these actually exist in current, production releases then I’ll be glad edit my article and post the links to correct my errors.

Good luck sailing!

In light of your lack of reseaching skills, I find it hard to believe your assertion that PNP developers are disgruntled and thus have switched to rails. from my experience in IRC several developers are actually moving from rails to cake because it is easier to setup, deploy, and scale.

Thanks for coming to the meeting. I would have been happy to answer these questions had you bothered to ask.
if you have anymore, feel free to email or stop by #cakephp.